Nintendo General Thread (Switch 2 announced)

[Hawq]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LidwUAAQrHw

[Hawq]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25HBU-2uGtg

[Hawq]

https://x.com/timeextension64/status/19 ... 1420293333

[Manoel]

One thing everyone forgets when talking about games being expensive in the 90s is that back then there were rental chains everywhere. We didn't need to buy the games, we could just rent them. Nowadays, at least here in Brazil, piracy, Steam and cheap game prices have decimated the rental market. There's nowhere to rent physical games anymore, not even the most expensive Nintendo Switch games.

And even back then, most places were we could rent games were just an extension of movie rental places, because game rentals weren't profitable enough alone.

So, yeah, it would be fair if we could simply rent an expensive game to beat it over the weekend like we did back then, but that's not possible.

[Hawq]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLzFveMeCU

[melancholy]

So did anyone preorder a Switch 2? I accidentally have 2 on order. While I was waiting in the Best Buy queue, Walmart had them go available. So I’m holding onto both just in case and if I end up with both of them, I’ll either return one or sell one to someone that didn’t get a preorder.

[Dr. Zoidberg]

I don't plan on getting one until later in the year.

[Manoel]

I only got a Switch 5 months ago, so I'm not eager to get the new one. Its local price is 2 months of my entire salary, and importing it makes it even more expensive due to the taxes.

And seeing how expensive the NS2 games are, the only thing I really like in the NS2 is the mouse function of the joycons 2. I bet Nintendo could have easily added that functionality to upgraded NS1 joycons (just like Sega and Sony added analog sticks to the SS and PS1 controllers in the 90s), but decided to maximize the novelty value of the NS2 instead.

Heck, Nintendo could have added USB mouse support to the NS1 if they wanted to, just like they added USB keyboard support. The NS1 has many possibilities that are limited solely by software.

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Info

207mm² v.s. 118mm²

It's also larger than the RTX 3050 Ti (mobile) GPU, Apple M2, Ryzen 7840H (Z1 extreme) and Qualcomm's X elite.

Tape out year of the SoC was on 2021 as annotated on the die. They also looked at the RTX 3050 GPU die, which had a tape out year of 2020.

T239 brief summary.

• 8 Core A78C cores, with 4MB L3 Cache and 256kb L2 cache on each die
  • The die area of the A78C is the same as the 8nm T234 orin, indicating the same process node.
  • The C and AE suffix doesn't bear much meaning on the core design itself, but rather the ARM classification indicating Compute and Automotive and how the cores operating
• 6 TPC, 2SM/TPC, 1536 CUDA Cores
  • Ampere design, although it's layout seems odd as the TPC's are separated
  • The design of the GPU seems more alike to Ada Lovelace
  • in terms of area of the TPC, the T239 is 22% smaller than the orin T234
• There are some differences in the chip design itself, it's not exactly 8nm and some aspects are closer to Samsung's 10nm process node fabrication.
• They highlight the previously "leaked" clocked speeds and like DF mention that its closest equivalent is the RTX 2050, although heavily downclocked.
• Like DF they also do a simulation of Switch 2 performance with the RTX 2050 downclocked as a proxy.
  • The docked performance is aligned to the GTX 1050 Ti in docked mode and GTX 750 ti in handheld mode in Synthetic tests Steel Nomad Light
  • It's far from the Xbox Series S and the closest mobile equivalent are Apple's A18 Pro, M1 in docked mode, and the Steam Deck is a bit better in handheld mode * They test Cyberpunk 2077, Black Myth Wukong, Monster hunter Wild, KCD2
• They also took a T234 board (Orin) and tested CPU performance through synthetics (geekbench 6)
  • Downclocking it to 1.1 GHz and 1 GHz, its single core performance is twice as much as the PS4 and 3x the Switch, closest laptop equivalent is the i7-4700HQ.
  • Closest mobile equivalent in multithreaded performance is the A12 in the iPhone, which btw has more than 2x the single threaded performance compared to the "Switch 2"
  • They also used a downclocked i7-10700KF to approximate Switch 2's CPU performance

[Hawq]

10 Underrated SNES Games You Need To Play gotta think most of us will have played a fair few of there

[Hawq]

[Dr. Zoidberg]